1861 Census - Hoist the Flags, Open the Champers!!! .....

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DavidWW
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1861 Census - Hoist the Flags, Open the Champers!!! .....

Post by DavidWW » Tue Oct 04, 2005 11:03 am

In another thread I've been very coy about inside knowledge in relation to the release date for this on www.scotlandspeople.co.uk , based on inside knowledge, ................. understandably, I trust, in view of repeated disappointments over the last couple of years :cry:

However, since many of you will now have received the latest email newsletter from SP there is no longer any need to hold back, and I can but quote from this newsletter .........

"1861 Census:
We are delighted to announce that the 1861 census will be available to ScotlandsPeople customers within the coming weeks, and we will advise you of the launch date nearer the time."

Without wishing to sound at all cynical, however, just please note the precise language used - "within the coming weeks", - and appreciate just how flexibly that could be interpreted.

I'd greatly like to believe that a "normal" interpretation of, say, 4 to 6 weeks, would be the reality, but I've been very badly burnt too often in this type of situation in relation to SP in the past :( :(

The saying "the proof's in the pudding" is all I will comment further for the moment. :wink:

And then I can't avoid commenting that I also have a reasonable idea of when 1851 and 1841 are likely to be available, but even a substantial sum deposited on my bank account, or via PayPal (see email details :!: Hint, Hint \:D/ ) wouldn't persuade me to comment further in the light of previous experience, except that there may be an interesting problem with the 1851 and 1841 censuses, other than the release date.

This is that there were two separate filmings of the 1841 and 1851 censuses and it's not clear for the moment which filming has been used for the production of the digitised images.

1841 is a problem in its own right in that there are quite a few missing districts, but there is also the problem that it is not uncommon to find a particular ED missing in one filming, but present on the other filming for both 1841 and 1851. This can also apply to individual pages in an ED.

Together with the FreeCen project for Scotland coordinator, Michelle Easton, and Sam Gibson of the LA LDS FHC, Andrew Paterson and I are working on a project to list the known missing 1841 and 1851 census info (as well as later census missing info). We hope to have an answer soon from GROS on which filming was used for the 1841 and 1851 images.

David

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Post by LesleyB » Tue Oct 04, 2005 11:12 am

Hi David
That's great news...but dunno if my credit card can stand all that excitement!! :?

hmm....may have to cancel Christmas... :lol:

Best wishes
Lesley
Researching:
Midlothian & Fife - Goalen, Lawrie, Ewart, Nimmo, Jamieson, Dick, Ballingall.
Dunbartonshire- Mcnicol, Davy, Guy, McCunn, McKenzie.
Ayrshire- Lyon, Parker, Mitchell, Fraser.
Easter Ross- McCulloch, Smith, Ross, Duff, Rose.

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Post by DavidWW » Tue Oct 04, 2005 11:31 am

lbathgate wrote:Hi David
That's great news...but dunno if my credit card can stand all that excitement!! :?

hmm....may have to cancel Christmas... :lol:

Best wishes
Lesley
Lesley

Let's get this straight :!:

Which is more important :?:

Christmas 2005, or the 1861 census on SP :!: :? <massive bg>

David

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Post by LesleyB » Tue Oct 04, 2005 8:54 pm

Let's get this straight
Which is more important
Christmas 2005, or the 1861 census on SP
#-o Ooooh... that's a difficult one. Hm... let me see.



..... :?

The way things er, often go, the two could well coincide :lol:
Researching:
Midlothian & Fife - Goalen, Lawrie, Ewart, Nimmo, Jamieson, Dick, Ballingall.
Dunbartonshire- Mcnicol, Davy, Guy, McCunn, McKenzie.
Ayrshire- Lyon, Parker, Mitchell, Fraser.
Easter Ross- McCulloch, Smith, Ross, Duff, Rose.

WilmaM
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Post by WilmaM » Tue Oct 04, 2005 11:05 pm

Hoist the Flags, Break Open the Champers !!!

But don't hold your breath .....

We want you around for the 2011 census :lol:
Wilma

scooter
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Post by scooter » Fri Oct 07, 2005 8:02 am

DavidWW wrote:
Scooter wrote:Hi David,

Would the promise of a macaroon bar change your mind?

Best,

Scott
Scott

How many boxes was that \:D/

David
I'll put the macaroons on ice (or would deep fried be more appropriate?) Oddly enough my e-mail client classified the SP newsletter as junk, I hope this wasn't another omen!

Onwards and upwards,

Scott
Researching Wishart (Glasgow & Kirkcaldy), McDonald (Donegal & Falkirk), Thomson (Star, Fife) & Harley (Monimail, Moonzie & Cupar)

DavidWW
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Post by DavidWW » Fri Oct 21, 2005 10:38 pm

No!, your eyes aren't deceiving you. after my little whirl around a certain census, the various posts have been deleted :twisted:

David

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Post by scooter » Fri Oct 21, 2005 10:48 pm

Well that's just not cricket!

:cry:
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Post by LesleyB » Fri Oct 21, 2005 10:52 pm

I was in the middle of editing my post when I got an error message saying I couldn't edit a post which was not mine...

....I was in the middle of mouthing WHHaaatttt? when I realised what had happened. That was a new experience :?

Lesley :lol:

...took me ages to type it too.

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Post by DavidWW » Fri Oct 21, 2005 10:54 pm

Scooter wrote:Well that's just not cricket!

:cry:
Confidentiality reasons 'n' that ........ :shock:

David