1861 Census: need help .....

[starlaughter]

Hi,

I am having a devil of a time finding my Hislop ancestors on the 1861 Census and wondered if someone might be able to suggest a few search options that might help narrow down the quest a bit.

The family consisted of John HISLOP born abt 1814 in Ireland, wife Ann born abt 1816 in Paisley and children Margaret b. 1839, William b. 1841, Mary b. 1850, Martha b. 1851 and John b. 1856. (the younger children all children born in Paisley)

In 1851 they were living at Snodgrass Lane, Paisley, in 1856 they were at 2 Cotton St, Paisley and in 1859 they were at Williamsburgh, Paisley.

I've managed to find oldest daughter Martha boarding with the family of her future husband in 83 New Sneddon St, Paisley in 1861 but no amont of juggling the HISLOP name and combining it with Paisley and Abbey brings up a fruitful result. I've tried all combinations: HISLOP. HYSLOP. HEASLOP.... Even searches using "H*SL*" didn't help.

John's brother James is in hiding too.

This family consists of James HISLOP b. abt 1815 in Ireland, wife Mary b. abt 1816 in Renfrew (according to 1851 census) and children Elisabeth b. 1835, James 1836, William 1839, John 1843, Catherine 1845 and Margaret 1847. (all children born in either Elderslie or Paisley) In 1859 they resided at Millarston, Paisley but in 1861 ???

Last of the elusive HISLOPs is John's father William who is also refusing to show himself.

William HISLOP was born 1789 in Derry, Ireland and was living at 9 West Campbell St, Paisley when when his wife Margaret died in September 1860. William himself died "in the Garden adjoining the Abbey Poorhouse, Paisley" in May 1863.

You wouldn't think they'd be so hard to find, but they just wont show them selves to me. I KNOW they are there **somewhere".

Any suggestions?

Lyn in Aus

[CatrionaL]

Hullo Lyn

Here's the family on the 1841 Census Index, just in case you don't have them

Vol 10 Page 18 Elderslie

HISLOP John HD 26 Cotton HLW IRL
Ann 26 RFW
Margret 2 RFW
William 1 RFW

His parents
HISLOP William HD 50 Ag Lab IRL
Margret 49 Cotton Throwster IRL
Hector 18 Cotton HLW RFW
Sarah 13 RFW

And his brother
HISLOP James HD 26 Ag Lab IRL
Mary 25 RFW
Elizabeth 6 RFW
James 5 RFW
William 2 RFW

I notice that Margaret is noted as Margret.

Hope someone else can help you with some answers to your questions.

Best wishes
Catriona

[CatrionaL]

Hi,

I've managed to find oldest daughter Martha boarding with the family of her future husband in 83 New Sneddon St, Paisley in 1861 but no amont of juggling the HISLOP name and combining it with Paisley and Abbey brings up a fruitful result. I've tried all combinations: HISLOP. HYSLOP. HEASLOP.... Even searches using "H*SL*" didn't help.


Any suggestions?

Lyn in Aus

Lyn,

Perhaps a foolish question, but. Have you tried enlarging your search to all of Renfrewshire instead of limiting it to Abbey and Paisley?

Catriona

[starlaughter]

Hi Catriona,

Thank you for the 1841 Census. Yes I did have it but thank you for looking the family up for me just the same. I have them all in 1851 too It is just 1861 where they won't come out and play.

I have done a bit of a search of Renfrew for the various family members but haven't found any one who fits.

In 1861 John and Ann should have had Mary who would have been 11, Martha 10 and son Jon about 4 living with them... but I can't find the children at all. Same with John's father William. a search Renfrew wide for him comes up with just 3 condendors, 20, 24 and 30 years of age. My William would have been in his 70's.

I'm at a total loss.

Lyn

[CatrionaL]

Lyn,

I see you mention William's death as "in the garden adjoining Paisley Poor House" Wonder if there might be a PoorHouse application for him. If there is it would probably give information about the whereabouts of his family members. The Paisley Poor House records are excellent.

Have you had a look at the Family Search Census Page? I know it's 1881. But if John had emigrated before 1861, he might turn up on one of these Census.
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/ ... census.asp

I recently found one of my Paisley "disappearances" there.

Catriona

[starlaughter]

Hi again Catriona,

Yes I have the Paisley Poor Law Record for William dated 31.01.1859. You are right. It is atreasure trove of information. I suspect that William would have ended up in the Poor House and that he probably died while working in the garden.

John definitely remained in Scotland; he died in Paisley in 1880 and his wife Ann (Smith) died there in 1871. Their son John, the one born in 1856, died in 1867 when the family were living at Maxwellton St, Paisley.

Some of the Hislop family did emigrate to Australia but John, James and William were not amongst them.

Lyn

[JustJean]

Hi Lyn and Catriona

I had one poor little credit left and spent it on a search of W* H*L*P* in an age range to try and pick up father William in 1861. Don't have the credits to view it but there is one that might want to be checked...???

1861 HENLOP WILLIAM M 71 ABBEY BURGH RENFREW 559/01 036/01 009

Best wishes
Jean

[Jack]

Hi Lyn,
Good to see you on TS.
I saw Jean's ref no for William just before i went up to have a look at 9 West Campbell St.
That one poor little credit saved a bit of time!
--
1861 cens 559-1 Ed 36 p 9 (Abbey)
Abbey Poorhouse, Paisley.
13. William HISLOP, pauper, widower, 71, formerly labourer, b Ireland
--
It might have been HESLOP at a pinch - difficult to be sure which spelling.

Jack

[starlaughter]

Thank you so much Jean and Jack,

I have the census page for William now... still looking for the rest of the family though. After so many wasted credits I went off on a tangent and now have marriage certificates for John's daughters Mary and Martha and Mary's death certficate as well so all is not lost.

I now have the INGLIS and LAIRD families of Paisley to persue as well.

I suppose one day I'll find out where the HISLOP family were hiding in 1861. Perhaps a transcription error is all that stands in my way.

Lyn