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Davie
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1841-51 poser .....

Post by Davie » Fri Apr 21, 2006 6:03 pm

Hi all
Have been spending a few bob on the new additions to SP and really enjoying myself.
However, have come across a few interesting downloads.
When looking for a family name on the 1841, "Janet M*C*Naught* aged between 26 and 30.
got 12 all aged 30
wondered if this was a pure coincidence.
On the 1851 was looking for a David Donaldson aged between 5 and 12.
No problem getting them up, but found that there was "No Image" but I could order.
That was from Airdrie or New Monklands.
Any help on that?
That aside, I have been amazed at the quality and detail on some of the 1841 returns
Awrabest
Davie

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Re: 1841-51 poser

Post by nelmit » Fri Apr 21, 2006 6:31 pm

Davie wrote:Hi all
Have been spending a few bob on the new additions to SP and really enjoying myself.
However, have come across a few interesting downloads.
When looking for a family name on the 1841, "Janet M*C*Naught* aged between 26 and 30.
got 12 all aged 30
wondered if this was a pure coincidence.
On the 1851 was looking for a David Donaldson aged between 5 and 12.
No problem getting them up, but found that there was "No Image" but I could order.
That was from Airdrie or New Monklands.
Any help on that?
That aside, I have been amazed at the quality and detail on some of the 1841 returns
Awrabest
Davie
Hi Davie,

Remember the ages were supposed to be rounded down to the nearest 5 when aged over 15 years.

Regards,
Annette M

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Post by Davie » Fri Apr 21, 2006 7:42 pm

Hi Annette
Was that just for the 1841?

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Post by AndrewP » Fri Apr 21, 2006 7:46 pm

Davie wrote:Was that just for the 1841?
Hi Davie,

(I trust Annette won't mind me answering your question)

"Yes". For more information, see the enumerators' instructions at http://www.talkingscot.com/censuses/census-1841.htm Real ages, or at least the given ages, were used from the 1851 census onwards.

All the best,

AndrewP

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Post by Davie » Mon Apr 24, 2006 9:14 pm

Thanks Andrew and Annette
Can you help with the 1851 SP poser?
"No Image" but can "order"
Davie

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Post by ladybird » Wed Apr 26, 2006 8:09 am

I'd be interested in this question too Davie, I have the same problem.
If the image is available to order why isn't it available online?
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Post by AndrewP » Wed Apr 26, 2006 3:38 pm

ladybird wrote:I'd be interested in this question too Davie, I have the same problem.
If the image is available to order why isn't it available online?
Hi Davie and Sylvia,

There are quality issues with the imaging of a significant number of the enumeration books. This is explained at ScotlandsPeople on the following webpage http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/conte ... .aspx?1263 (scroll down to the 1851 paragraphs).

If you order a census page from one of these books, it is my understanding that you will receive a photocopy of that page, copied directly from the book and not from the scanned image.

It looks like these books will be re-scanned of some stage, but as yet no date has been given. From previous messages on Talking Scot, I believe the origin of the problem is that thes books used a blue paper and blue ink was used on them, and this creates difficulties in imaging to black and white where the ink and paper colours are very close. A photocopy is usually grey-scale, hence can show many shades between black and white (and hence should make something legible from the blue on blue), but the microfilms and digital images are black and white only (with no shades in between).

There's no blaming GROS for that one. The 1851 census took place four years before GROS was created.

All the best,

AndrewP