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SO ANGRY!!!!

Post by Jean Jeanie » Mon Apr 24, 2006 11:10 pm

1841 Census Cromdale.

I know this is my pet parish but for SP to put a note that Moray Cromdale can be found under Moray Inverallan on their site is a disgrace. No mention that Inverness Cromdale can be found there too. Bearing in mind that the largest part of Cromdale is in Inverness

Folks searching in Inverness generally will get no hits in Cromdale.

More wasted money like my wasted money searching for BMD's a few months ago.

Peeved :cry:

Jean

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Re: SO ANGRY!!!!

Post by DavidWW » Tue Apr 25, 2006 1:36 pm

Jean Jeanie wrote:1841 Census Cromdale.

I know this is my pet parish but for SP to put a note that Moray Cromdale can be found under Moray Inverallan on their site is a disgrace. No mention that Inverness Cromdale can be found there too. Bearing in mind that the largest part of Cromdale is in Inverness

Folks searching in Inverness generally will get no hits in Cromdale.

More wasted money like my wasted money searching for BMD's a few months ago.

Peeved :cry:

Jean
Hi Jean/Peeved

Please email me bell book and candle on the situation and I'll personally ensure that the matter is properly investigated ..............

David

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Post by Jean Jeanie » Tue Apr 25, 2006 3:06 pm

A public thank you to David for taking this on board.

SP just brushed my comments to one side. I did expect more from them than "There are no plans to re index these - the information regarding searches has been made available on the site."

Jean

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So angry

Post by grammy » Tue Apr 25, 2006 3:42 pm

I am just a bit curious so do not feel obliged to answer ...were you offered any credits or extra search time or anything?

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Post by Jean Jeanie » Tue Apr 25, 2006 3:49 pm

Oh Yes. Can't complain about that at all. I was refunded 130 credits for the "missing" BMD's and given something like 8 weeks to use them.

They also gave me 10 credits for pointing out this latest indexing error in the 1841 census.

Just received an e mail from SP. Stating that re-indexing is taking place at this moment in time and will hopefully be completed by the start of next week.

Yesterday there were no plans to re index these :roll:

Thanks DWW

Jean

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Post by Jean Jeanie » Tue Apr 25, 2006 4:18 pm

I have just had a personal apology from SP.

Apparantly there was a mix up at their end. Apparantly after my first e mail a decision was made to re - index. Wires were crossed at SP and my contact there misunderstood and thought that no re - indexing was taking place.

Sufficient to say that we now have a happy ending :D

Jean

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Post by JustJean » Tue Apr 25, 2006 4:27 pm

:shock: Wow......I knew David was connected....but that was fast :!: :roll:

Good to hear you're happy there now....ain't nuthin' worser than a peeved Jean :lol: !

Best wishes
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Post by DavidWW » Thu Apr 27, 2006 11:47 am

JustJean wrote::shock: Wow......I knew David was connected....but that was fast :!: :roll:

Good to hear you're happy there now....ain't nuthin' worser than a peeved Jean :lol: !

Best wishes
Namesake
DWW might or might not be well be connected, but thanks to me in this immediate instance are out of place, since Jean received a response before I'd even got round to contacting SoL on her behalf, - as a concerned member of the User Group, in the particular context of the major problems that Jean had previously with this very problematic parish/registration district.

Cromdale is one of those really awkward parishes. Along with Inverallan & Advie, most, possibly not all, of that quoad civilia parish was a detached part of Inverness-shire in the middle of Moray as of 1729 (Ref: The Phillimore Atlas & Index of Parish Registers 3rd Edition, Cecil R Humphery-Smith, Phillimoe & Co., Chichester, ISBN 1 86077 239 0).

According to Francis H Groome's 1890s "New" Edition of his Ordnance Gazerreer of Scotland, published by William Mackenzie (I believe that a CD version is now available) Cromdale parish's history is even more complicated according to this extract ....

"Cromdale, a parish chiefly in Elginshire [i.e. Moray], but partly also in Inverness-shire until 1891 when the Boundary Commissioners placed it entirely in one county by restricting its area to that of the Elginshire portion - the Inverness-shire portion being transferred to the Inverness-shire parish of Duthil and Rothiemurchus".

So, obviously, not exactly straightforward to handle in indexing terms :!:

There aren't that many situations in the 19th century and later which I'm aware of which are just that complicated, but be very careful in the 18th C and earlier. In the fast growing cities, however, as late as the early 1900s, there were major reorganisations involving the renumbering, realigning, creation of new registration districts etc., ... see, for example, the situation in Glasgow http://www.talkingscot.com/rds/city-rds-glas.htm

Equally, in more modern times, many small registration districts have been amalgamated

The lesson to be learnt in terms of searching is that when a person or family suddenly "disappears" from the records, statutory BMD or census, it may be nothing more complicated that such a reorganisation.

In other words, the family may not have moved at all. So invest time in such a case in studying the detailed administrative history as it has affected the local geography in terms of census and reghistration districts.

David

David