Interment but no death certificate .....

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CathieL
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Interment but no death certificate .....

Post by CathieL » Fri Jul 14, 2006 2:14 am

I knew when my mother's parents had died and I had a rough idea of where they were buried so I e-mailed for a Burials Record search. When I got the record I saw that in the same grave there was a baby who was buried the year before my mother was born.
The record says 22 March 1916 James Farrell (Baby) Age 0 Months
I could not find a birth record for him so I contacted SP and they tell me that if a child is stillborn there will be no record but they did not know why there would be a funeral unless that is what the parents wanted. Anyone else ever find anything like that?
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Post by CatrionaL » Fri Jul 14, 2006 9:22 am

Cathie

If you go to the "search" at the top of the page and put in "stillbirth", you'll find a number of posts on the subject which might be helpful.

Best wishes

Catriona

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Post by emanday » Fri Jul 14, 2006 1:27 pm

Hi Cathiel

One of my ancestor rellies lost a baby girl at only about a hour old. Family story is that permission was obtained from minister and probably the authorities to have the bairn buried in the family plot.

There was no actual funeral, just the gravediggers, the father and the minister present at the interment. So sad.
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Post by CathieL » Fri Jul 14, 2006 9:10 pm

Thanks Catriona and Emanday
I read the posts on stillbirth (should have done that first) :oops: and I understand now and yes it is very sad. There are so many deaths of wee ones.
The reason I asked in the first place is that my grandmother on my father's side had twin boys in 1897 and the first born died twenty minutes later (Atsthenia, means weakness). I have his birth and death certificate. I wondered why there was none for wee James
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Re: Interment but no death certificate

Post by DavidWW » Fri Jul 14, 2006 10:01 pm

CathieL wrote:I knew when my mother's parents had died and I had a rough idea of where they were buried so I e-mailed for a Burials Record search. When I got the record I saw that in the same grave there was a baby who was buried the year before my mother was born.
The record says 22 March 1916 James Farrell (Baby) Age 0 Months
I could not find a birth record for him so I contacted SP and they tell me that if a child is stillborn there will be no record but they did not know why there would be a funeral unless that is what the parents wanted. Anyone else ever find anything like that?
Cathie
Cathie

Prior to 1939 and the then created Register of Stillbirths (closed unless there are legal reasons) stillbirths were not registered.

The logic was that was that unless there had been a live birth, there couldn't be an entry in the registers of births.

In 1855 only, there are a few stillbirths registered in the death registers.

David

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Post by joette » Mon Jul 17, 2006 10:01 am

Whilst searching through the OPR for St Quivock in Ayr the OPR for Newton was on the same film(St Quiv.was a very small Parish & the records are less than extensive.)I found the most marvelouss entries.
There was a Death register which included the cause of Death-things like chin cough-I think a brilliant description of what I took to be Whooping Cough,Smallpox in epidemics& the annual ones of Measles.
However the most touching was the stillbirths which were registered with the babies being named.I cried as I thought of those parents giving names to their wee ones who would never hear them called. :cry:
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