Hi,
I have being using the ScotlandsPeople site and have been discouraged with the lack of consistent information. I started doing family history back in 1992 and then used the a local LDS church library where I was able to get the OPR extracts on microfiche. I was working in the area of Rerrick, Kirkcudbright and found my gggrandmother's birth information as well as her siblings of which I have copies. In 1994 I went to Scotland and used the New Register House and found more information on her family including death information found in the civil records after 1855. Again from the OPR.
However now when I try to find these same records on the ScotlandsPoople site they don't exist. So I have to wonder why? The only records I have had success in finding with any accuracy is the census records.
I was hoping to find marriage licenses in the OPR. Is this a frequent problem with this site? I wouldn't be confused it I didn't already have copies of the extracts.
Jody
Missing information
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AndrewP
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Hi Jody,
Welcome to TalkingScot.
The significant difference between the ScotlandsPeople index (and the New Register House index) and the IGI is that the IGI includes information from other sources such as submitted by LDS patrons. The SP and NRH versions of the pre-1855 index represents the OPRs only, and hence theirs is verifiable to a copy of a written record.
The images of the OPRs are not yet available online, so these will come up as "no image available" in the meantime.
When you were in the LDS Family History Centre, did you only view the IGI (usually on microfiche, now on computer, I think) or did you also view the OPR (usually on rolls of microfilm)? If you have not seen them on the OPR microfilms, then I would wonder if these were submitted entries and hence not on the SP or NRH indexes.
All the best,
AndrewP
Welcome to TalkingScot.
The significant difference between the ScotlandsPeople index (and the New Register House index) and the IGI is that the IGI includes information from other sources such as submitted by LDS patrons. The SP and NRH versions of the pre-1855 index represents the OPRs only, and hence theirs is verifiable to a copy of a written record.
The images of the OPRs are not yet available online, so these will come up as "no image available" in the meantime.
When you were in the LDS Family History Centre, did you only view the IGI (usually on microfiche, now on computer, I think) or did you also view the OPR (usually on rolls of microfilm)? If you have not seen them on the OPR microfilms, then I would wonder if these were submitted entries and hence not on the SP or NRH indexes.
All the best,
AndrewP
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Fraochale
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Thanks for the reply. What I have are actual OPR entires, copies from Microfiche ( both from the LDS and New Register House) which have been photgraphed, the image from the original book. This is why I am stumped as to why my gggrandmother's entry is not on the database at Scotlandpeople.
I tried the Mormon's on line site for the IGI and her two older brothers are there as well as her parents but no record of her or her four younger siblings.
Jody
I tried the Mormon's on line site for the IGI and her two older brothers are there as well as her parents but no record of her or her four younger siblings.
Jody
Researching:
names: Mctaggart, Clarke, Wallace, McCartney, McKeand, Kissock
locations:
Kircudbright-Rerrick, Balmaghie, Kelton, Crossmichael
Wigtown-Newton Stewart, Penninghamme
names: Mctaggart, Clarke, Wallace, McCartney, McKeand, Kissock
locations:
Kircudbright-Rerrick, Balmaghie, Kelton, Crossmichael
Wigtown-Newton Stewart, Penninghamme
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Fraochale
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I found out what the problem was, I wasn't clicking the Soundex box, when i did that the listing came up for at least one of the people I couldn't find before.
Thanks,
Jody
Thanks,
Jody
Researching:
names: Mctaggart, Clarke, Wallace, McCartney, McKeand, Kissock
locations:
Kircudbright-Rerrick, Balmaghie, Kelton, Crossmichael
Wigtown-Newton Stewart, Penninghamme
names: Mctaggart, Clarke, Wallace, McCartney, McKeand, Kissock
locations:
Kircudbright-Rerrick, Balmaghie, Kelton, Crossmichael
Wigtown-Newton Stewart, Penninghamme
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Hi Jody
You're often better to use wildcards instead of soundex. So for McTaggart use M*Taggart to catch MacTaggart as well and if stuck reduce the name to its barest components with * in between to be sure you catch it. I once only got a McLachlane when I searched on M*la*la*. Soundex might well have got that one but it does not always pick up all the variations and quite often picks up too many making your search results unmanageable.
Anne
BTW Never search for a Christina without putting the forename in as just Chris. That was you'll pick up Christian and Christy. What it won't get you is Kirsty.
You're often better to use wildcards instead of soundex. So for McTaggart use M*Taggart to catch MacTaggart as well and if stuck reduce the name to its barest components with * in between to be sure you catch it. I once only got a McLachlane when I searched on M*la*la*. Soundex might well have got that one but it does not always pick up all the variations and quite often picks up too many making your search results unmanageable.
Anne
BTW Never search for a Christina without putting the forename in as just Chris. That was you'll pick up Christian and Christy. What it won't get you is Kirsty.
Anne
Researching M(a)cKenzie, McCammond, McLachlan, Kerr, Assur, Renton, Redpath, Ferguson, Shedden, Also Oswald, Le/assels/Lascelles, Bonning just for starters
Researching M(a)cKenzie, McCammond, McLachlan, Kerr, Assur, Renton, Redpath, Ferguson, Shedden, Also Oswald, Le/assels/Lascelles, Bonning just for starters
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Fraochale
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Andy
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Hi Anne,
Notice you're hunting for Assurs, Don't suppose you have a Herman Isadore born abt 1875 in your mob?
Notice you're hunting for Assurs, Don't suppose you have a Herman Isadore born abt 1875 in your mob?
Searching for Keogh, Kelly, Fitzgerald, Riddell, Stewart, Wilson, McQuilkin, Lynch, Boyle, Cairney, Ross, King, McIlravey, McCurdy, Drennan and Woods (to name but a few).
Also looking for any information on Rathlin Island, County Antrim, Ireland.
Also looking for any information on Rathlin Island, County Antrim, Ireland.
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AnneM
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Hi Andy
Yup, he's mine. I think we may have corresponded about him before. Didn't he marry one of your Rathlin bunch, shortly after almost certainly siring my grandfather. Naughty boy!!
Anne
Yup, he's mine. I think we may have corresponded about him before. Didn't he marry one of your Rathlin bunch, shortly after almost certainly siring my grandfather. Naughty boy!!
Anne
Anne
Researching M(a)cKenzie, McCammond, McLachlan, Kerr, Assur, Renton, Redpath, Ferguson, Shedden, Also Oswald, Le/assels/Lascelles, Bonning just for starters
Researching M(a)cKenzie, McCammond, McLachlan, Kerr, Assur, Renton, Redpath, Ferguson, Shedden, Also Oswald, Le/assels/Lascelles, Bonning just for starters
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Andy
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Hi Anne,
Yep that's right he married Mary Elizabeth Black.
Yep that's right he married Mary Elizabeth Black.
Searching for Keogh, Kelly, Fitzgerald, Riddell, Stewart, Wilson, McQuilkin, Lynch, Boyle, Cairney, Ross, King, McIlravey, McCurdy, Drennan and Woods (to name but a few).
Also looking for any information on Rathlin Island, County Antrim, Ireland.
Also looking for any information on Rathlin Island, County Antrim, Ireland.