My Margaret McLuckie dilemma .....

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StewL
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My Margaret McLuckie dilemma .....

Post by StewL » Sun Aug 06, 2006 3:52 am

Hello all

I have been having problems lately with my Margaret McLuckie who married James Barton. I have not been convinced that I have the right one, in fact the one I had would have only been 16 when she married. Not unheard of, of course, but it would have been frowned upon by the kirk. The Margaret I had was born in Barony, yet on each of the censuses I have on James and Margaret, she is down as being born in Old Monkland, Lanark. This got me working out her ages and possibly year of birth. I finally had another look on IGI on Saturday, and found a Margaret McLuckie who was christened on 6 Feb 1825, which is much closer to what her ages are on censuses, and she is born in Old Monkland.

Details:

Christening 6 Feb 1825, Old Monkland, Lanark

Father William McLuckie
Mother Elizabeth Gardner
This is an extracted record, not a submission.

There is another Margaret McLuckie born in 1828 in Shotts to different parents, but James and Margaret named two of their children William and Eliza! They were the second and third children, the first being James.

As she is the only one within a 5 year span who was born in Old Monkland, I am tending to drift towards accepting that this is actually my long lost. As far as the ages on the censuses are concerned they do often fluctuate, and it is not unusual for men and women of those time to shave a few years off their ages.

I will pursue this a bit further and try to find her on 1841 census using her “parents” names, as I think I may have been a bit too quick to accept my original Margaret and her parents, without properly checking the area where she was born.
Of course I have to confess that I was not much on censuses for a while, much to my current embarrassment now :oops: . Although when I “found” my original Maggie, there were not a lot of censuses available to search online. :(

Just wonder what the good folks on the forum think about this latest Maggie?
Stewie

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Re My Margaret McLuckie dilemma

Post by Jack » Sun Aug 06, 2006 1:09 pm

Hi Stewie,
Have you found Margaret McLUCKIE's DC yet?
As you'll know,
James & Margaret's 2nd son seems to be a William, and they did have a daur Eliza.
Jack

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Post by HeatherH » Sun Aug 06, 2006 5:25 pm

Hi Jack,
Stewie and I have chatted many times on his McLuckie/Barton ancestors and he has Margaret's death cert dated 1903.The problem with this was her son John gave the details for his parents not hers on the register.(I believe Stewie has an earlier post on this somewhere but with over 500 to go through I took the lazy way out and just looked for my notes. :D
I am having a look on the 1841 to see which Margaret McLuckies may be found born in Monkland but haven't found 1 with the correct combination of parents for either the Margaret who was 16 when she wed or the other born in Monkland that Stewie is refering to.
Think I'll get a fresh cuppa and have another go from scratch.What more could you possibly want on a Sunday afternoon besides a nice tea and a dead rellie mystery. :D
Happy Hunting,
HH

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Re My Margaret McLuckie dilemma

Post by Jack » Sun Aug 06, 2006 7:55 pm

Hi Heather,
It would be easier for me to search over 500 posts than try to find something in my notes.... :oops:
Jack

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Post by joette » Sun Aug 06, 2006 11:45 pm

Me too :lol:
Researching:SCOTT,Taylor,Young,VEITCH LINLEY,MIDLOTHIAN
WADDELL,ROSS,TORRANCE,GOVAN/DALMUIR/Clackmanannshire
CARR/LEITCH-Scotland,Ireland(County Donegal)
LINLEY/VEITCH-SASK.Canada
ALSO BROWN,MCKIMMIE,MCDOWALL,FRASER.
Greer/Grier,Jenkins/Jankins

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Post by HeatherH » Mon Aug 07, 2006 2:27 am

Hi Stewie,
I have been looking on the 1841 for a Margaret McLuckie born in Old Monkland about 1836 - 1826 and not having any luck. Is there any other info from the census that may help ?
HH

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Post by StewL » Mon Aug 07, 2006 2:53 am

Hello Heather, Jack and Joette

Heather and I have chatted many a time over Margaret McLuckie in the past. I did have a post about My Barton brickwall a while ago, looking to find the very elusive John Barton and Martha Dunlop, on James DC his father was down as a sodjer deceased, and on different censuses James is down as born (St.....)Americas 1881, US America 1871, America(s?) British Subject 1861.

Like Heather I have searched the 1841 census for Margaret McLuckie but haven’t found one as yet where the age fits, unless of course she was telling porky pies about her age. :shock: I think I found her in 1891 in Bowhousebraes as a 60year old, yet in 1881 she is in Bowhousebraes as a 61 year old, but when she dies in 1903 she is still only 68 years old. In 1871 she is 40?? :?

It is becoming more and more likely that she told porkies about her age all her life.
:lol:
Stewie

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Post by HeatherH » Fri Aug 11, 2006 5:45 am

Hi Stew,
I have a few rellies like that myself.Makes it even more difficult when trying to locate them.
HH

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Post by StewL » Sat Aug 12, 2006 2:21 am

Heather (Nova Stotia :lol: )

I probably may never find out what her age really was, I guess I will have to add her to the Barton ](*,) . Oh! those Bartons :?
Stewie

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Post by HeatherH » Sat Aug 12, 2006 3:05 am

Stew,
Nova Stotia indeed! Don't you have some Brady Bunch to catch up on? :D
My luck is as usual of my 8 Great Grandparents lines I have managed to hit a brickwall in each.I don't mind the ones that end in Irish rellies as I think of them as more stumbling blocks .But My Prudence Stewart seems to have just appeared at her wedding to John McIlwee and carried on through the census with no clues to who her parents may have been.She married before SR and her son in law who registered her death was no help.For her father he says Paul McIlwee and mother he leaves blank. :roll: She is 20 in 1841;28 in 1851;46 in 1861 ;50 in 1871;67 in 1881 and 70 in 1891 and 74 on her death cert in 1900.your guess is as good as mine as to how old she really was.
Happy Hunting,
HeatherH