Mmmm!! where to now?? They disapeared

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Vagabond
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Mmmm!! where to now?? They disapeared

Post by Vagabond » Thu Aug 17, 2006 12:05 pm

Greetings to all,
I'm looking for info on the Orr family of Partick, lanarkshire.
The info I have so far is:
John Orr married Jane Mitchell < no dates - sorry>
Only child I can find is Robert Orr <b: 1846 - Glasgow> <d: 1926 - South Africa>. He married Barbara Tolmei <b: 1844 - Partick>; on 13 Dec 1870 in Partick. They had three duaghters Agnus Wilson Orr <b:1871 -Partick>. Jane Mitchell Orr <b:1873 - Partick>. Then they dissapeared. Agnes appears in Heilbron, Orange Free State, South Africa where she marries Alexander Thomas Pittendrigh on the 11 Nov 1889. Wittnessed by Jane Orr.
The third daughter Barbara Tolmei Orr is married to John Eugene Barnier on
06 Sep 1897 in Heilbron, Orange Free State, South Africa. Wittnessed by Robert Orr.
I have other little bitts, but I realy need to Know about Jane Mithchell Orr my GGrandmother. As you are all well aware the SA archieves are no great fun. So if anyone has any further info please get in touch.
Many Thanks
Robert Orr <b: 1846> - head - Glasgow;
Barabara Orr <nee Tolmei> <b: 1844> - wife - Partick;
Agnus Wilson Orr <b:1871> - daughter - Partick;
Jane Mitchell Orr <b: 1873> - daughter - Partick;
Barbara Tolmei Orr <b: 1875> - daughter - ??South Africa;

LesleyB
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Post by LesleyB » Thu Aug 17, 2006 12:44 pm

hi Vagabond
...and a warm welcome to TalkingScot :D

I wndered if you had looked at the Scotlands People site yet (link at top of page) There you should be able to find the births of the three sisters if you don't have these already, and the 1871 census would be worth looking at to confirm (or not) the children below.

there is a Robert Orr on the IGI, but it is a submission:
ROBERT ALEXANDER ORR
Birth: 17 JUL 1847 Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Parents:
Father: JOHN ORR
Mother: JEAN MITCHELL

But this one is an extract;
CATHERINE STRATHDEE ORR
Christening: 03 MAR 1850 Gorbals, Lanark, Scotland
as is:
DAVID ORR
Birth: 01 MAY 1855 Govan, Lanark, Scotland

then there is another submission:
ALEXANDER DAVID ORR
Birth: 11 JAN 1846 Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland

There is a birth of a Barbara Tolmie Orr on Scotlands People in 1875 Govan, Lanark, so looks like she was born in Scotland, and if so, the family were still in Scotland at that time.

Best wishes
Lesley

Jack
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Re John Orr & Jane Mitchell

Post by Jack » Thu Aug 17, 2006 1:00 pm

Hi Vagabond,
A Welcome to TalkingScot...!
If any of these names etc look familiar, then it might be worth checking out this family.
But firstly It would be useful to find the DCs of John ORR & Jane MITCHELL.
--
JOHN ORR - Christening: 30 DEC 1810 Stewarton, Ayr, Scotland [LDS submission]
Parents: John ORR & Agnes Nairn

JEAN MITCHELL - Birth: 04 NOV 1809; Christening: 13 NOV 1809 Girvan, Ayr, Scotland [OPR Extract]
Parents: DAVID MITCHELL & CATHARINE STRATHDIE
--
JOHN ORR
JANE MITCHELL
Marriage: 21 JUN 1844 Gorbals, Lanark, Scotland [OPR Extract]

--children?--
ALEXANDER DAVID ORR - Birth: 11 JAN 1846 Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland [LDS submission]
ROBERT ALEXANDER ORR - Birth: 17 JUL 1847 Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland [LDS submission]
CATHERINE STRATHDEE ORR - Birth: 29 DEC 1849; Christening: 03 MAR 1850 Gorbals, Lanark, Scotland [OPR Extract]
DAVID ORR Birth: 01 MAY 1855 Govan, Lanark, Scotland [great year for a BC!]
--
1851 census 622 (579) Ed 14 p 6 (Anderston)
John ORR, 34
Jane ORR, 35
John ORR, 5 [is this Alexander?]
Robert ORR, 3
Catherine ORR, abt 1
--
1861 census 646-2 Ed 1 p 42 (Govan)
John ORR, 45, b Stewarton, AYR
Jane ORR, 47, b Girvan, AYR
Robert ORR, 13, b Glasgow, LKS
Catherine ORR, 11, b Glasgow, LKS
David ORR, 5, b Glasgow, LKS
--
Jack
ps, Lesley, i'm the coo's tail as usual. :lol:

Vagabond
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RE: Robert Orr

Post by Vagabond » Thu Aug 17, 2006 1:06 pm

Thanks Lesley,
I have a copy of Robert and Barbara's Wedding certificate and Roberts parents are John Orr and Jane Mitchell. On the entry for Robert Alexander Orr, Jean Orr might be a slight transcription error.
I have searched Scotlandspeople and got all the info they have.
The strange thing is that I can't find any record of them leaving Scotland.
I can trace from me back to my Grandfather. Then during the Alglo Boer War going back to 1873 there seem to be a lot of blanks, with only bits and pieces.

Thanks for your advice
Robert Orr <b: 1846> - head - Glasgow;
Barabara Orr <nee Tolmei> <b: 1844> - wife - Partick;
Agnus Wilson Orr <b:1871> - daughter - Partick;
Jane Mitchell Orr <b: 1873> - daughter - Partick;
Barbara Tolmei Orr <b: 1875> - daughter - ??South Africa;

LesleyB
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Post by LesleyB » Thu Aug 17, 2006 1:52 pm

Hi Vagabond
Janes are often Jean and both of those are often Janet! That is, when Janets aren't being Jennets, Jannats or Jessies! :lol:

Best wishes
Lesley

Vagabond
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Post by Vagabond » Fri Aug 18, 2006 2:08 pm

JANE, JEAN, JANET!!!!????Oh no!! It's all so confusing Mmmm! :lol: :D :lol:
Robert Orr <b: 1846> - head - Glasgow;
Barabara Orr <nee Tolmei> <b: 1844> - wife - Partick;
Agnus Wilson Orr <b:1871> - daughter - Partick;
Jane Mitchell Orr <b: 1873> - daughter - Partick;
Barbara Tolmei Orr <b: 1875> - daughter - ??South Africa;