margaret ritchie

[bernadine nisbet]

Hello list can anyone help with my g/ g mother Margaret Ritchie she married a John Blues in Gourdon John was born1876 and died christmas day 1923 Its the Ritchie side I am trying to find out about Hope this rings a bell with somebody Thanks Bernadine Nisbet

[LesleyB]

Hi Bernadine
I'm not sure what you have seen & what not... but have you had a look for the marriage of Margaret Ritchie and John Blues? There seems to be one in 1900 in Kincardine on Scotlands People, which, if it is the correct couple, (and it kinda looks about right, date & place-wise) should give you their parents' names.

If it is the correct couple, the 1901 census would be worth checking as well.

Best wishes
Lesley

[JustJean]

Hi Bernadine

Lesley is spot on with the marriage details. Here is wee John with his family in 1881:

Dwelling: Front St
Census Place: Benholm, Kincardine, Scotland
Source: FHL Film 0203468 GRO Ref Volume 253 EnumDist 3 Page 18
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Thomas BLUES M 40 M Benholm Johnshaven, Kincardine, Scotland
Rel: Head
Occ: Salmon Fisher
Jane BLUES M 30 F Benholm Johnshaven, Kincardine, Scotland
Rel: Wife
Thomas BLUES 9 M Benholm Johnshaven, Kincardine, Scotland
Rel: Son
Occ: Scholar
Elizabeth BLUES 7 F Benholm Johnshaven, Kincardine, Scotland
Rel: Daur
Occ: Scholar
John BLUES 4 M Benholm Johnshaven, Kincardine, Scotland
Rel: Son
Occ: Scholar
Jane BLUES 2 F Benholm Johnshaven, Kincardine, Scotland
Rel: Daur
Helen M. BLUES 9 m F Benholm Johnshaven, Kincardine, Scotland
Rel: Daur
Helen MACKIE U 25 F Benholm Johnshaven, Kincardine, Scotland
Rel: Sister In Law
Occ: Hemp Spinner
James WALKER 5 M Benholm Johnshaven, Kincardine, Scotland
Rel: Nephew
Occ: Scholar

and here is wee Margaret with family in 1881:

Dwelling: Queen Street
Census Place: Bervie, Kincardine, Scotland
Source: FHL Film 0203468 GRO Ref Volume 254 EnumDist 1 Page 4
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Thomas (Jr.) RITCHIE M 41 M Bervie, Kincardine, Scotland
Rel: Head
Occ: Fisherman
Christina RITCHIE M 45 F Bervie, Kincardine, Scotland
Rel: Wife
Jane RITCHIE 15 F Bervie, Kincardine, Scotland
Rel: Daur
Occ: Helper At Home
Thomas RITCHIE 10 M Bervie, Kincardine, Scotland
Rel: Son
Occ: Scholar
Margt. RITCHIE 4 F Bervie, Kincardine, Scotland
Rel: Daur
Alex.Lownie RITCHIE 1 M Bervie, Kincardine, Scotland
Rel: Son


Best wishes
Jean

[bernadine nisbet]

What can I say ladies once again you have come up trumps I dont think there is another site on the web to match Talking Scot,Thank you both so much Regards Bernadine

[Bervonian]

Hi Bernadine,

I agree with Jean that Margaret Ritchie's parents are Thomas Ritchie and Christina Lownie. The couple also had:

Isabella 1862
James 1864
Jean 1865
Elizabeth 1868
Thomas 1870
John 1874
Alexander Lownie 1880

Thomas Ritchie and Christina Lownie were married 1861 Bervie. (They would have lived in Gourdon, the fishing village in Bervie Parish.)
The next question is, who were Thomas's parents ? There were two Thomas Ritchies born at this time:
Thomas 1842. Parents: David Ritchie & Mary Murray.
" 1839. " : Thomas Ritchie & Jessie Carnegie.

I believe them to be the latter, but the only way to be certain is to look up the Thomas Ritchie/Christina Lownie marriage on ScotlandsPeople. This is a pay per view site, and for £6.00 you can look up 5 certiificates

Should the parents be Thomas & Jane Carnegie, they were married 1837 Bervie, and in addition to Thomas, they had William 1841 and James 1843.
The reason that I'm following this up is because I live in Bervie

Bervonian.

[bernadine nisbet]

Thank you so much for your help I do think it was the latter too because my late mother-in-law Elizabeth Jane Mackie Nisbet(nee Blues) was born and raised in Gourdon,a lovely place which I have been to often.Lizzie had a sister named Christina Lownie Blues so you can see they kept the names in the family,for a good job it help's us folk to sort them out.There was another sister Catherine Fotheringham(nee Blues) she lived in Johnshaven also a brother Thomas.We know now that Thomas Ritchie was called after his father Thomas born1816.it's getting interesting now I hope I can get back even further Thank you all so much Bernadine

[Bervonian]

The only Thomas Ritchie (husband of Jessie Carnegie) that comes up when searching for his birth in the Kincardineshire section of the I.G.I. is a Thomas born 15 Jan 1815 to William Ritchie & Margaret Jervis. They also had a daughter Ann born 21 May 1809. I could find no record of this couple's marriage.
The library here has microfilms of the Census records and the Old Parish Register of Bervie so I'll see what, if anything, the entry for Thomas's birth has to say. Should you want me to look up anything else you only have to ask.

Bervonian.