Is This A Wishart Family? .....

scooter · Post by **scooter** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 6:20 pm

Hello,

I've donwloaded the following image http://talkingscot.com/gallery/displayi ... ?pos=-1034 from the 1851 census. The index says that this is a Wishart family (near the bottom of the page headed by William) however I'm not so sure.

Any help is greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance,

Scott

Post by **SarahND** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 6:37 pm

Not that this is by any means a definitive source...(rather the contrary) but you might be interested to know that the ancestry.com index has the last name as Schat

The cha I would go along with, but the rest?? That is very messy handwriting!
Regards,
Sarah

karenc · Post by **karenc** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 6:43 pm

Hi Scott

i wouldnt even like to hazard a guess at what that says

very messy writing indeed.

karen

Russell · Post by **Russell** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 10:25 pm

Hi Scott.
Every time you think you have seen the worst handwriting possible along comes another one.
I don't think it is William because the enumerator has used abbreviations for almost all long forenames (See the bottom entry for Wm).
The down strokes from the McCaffre entry has blocked any evidence of upstrokes from the putative Wishart name however I don't think it is.
What it is though I can't even hazard a guess. Sorry!

I wonder if they were still in Cross Street 10 years later ?

Russell

Post by **AnneM** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 10:28 pm

Hi

Looks almost like Sohar to me. Could it be some phonetic rendering of an Irish name.

Anne

Post by **AndrewP** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 10:34 pm

Hi Scott,

Like Anne, I see Sohar there. Could it be O'Hare lost in the translation? I see the full name as Will<sup>m</sup> Sohar.

All the best,

AndrewP

DavidWW · Post by **DavidWW** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 10:43 pm

It's not a "W", agreed, but what it is, I'm not sure, - I'd want to look at several other pages to see what similarly formed capitals could be found, the downcomer of the "f" in the lien above doesn't help ........... and also see if there's a surname ending in "hart" to see how he forms that.

And I'm not yet convinced that the surname doesn't end in "hart" ......

David

Post by **SarahND** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 10:49 pm

Russell wrote:I wonder if they were still in Cross Street 10 years later ?

Finally found them in 1861, this time the family is indexed (by ancestry.com) as Matchel

Can anyone see Matchel in the 1851 image?

Regards,
Sarah

Post by **AndrewP** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 10:53 pm

SarahND wrote:Can anyone see Matchel in the 1851 image?

Hi Sarah,

No, not by any stretch of my imagination.

All the best,

AndrewP

DavidWW · Post by **DavidWW** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 11:13 pm

SarahND wrote:
Russell wrote:I wonder if they were still in Cross Street 10 years later ?
Finally found them in 1861, this time the family is indexed (by ancestry.com) as Matchel

Can anyone see Matchel in the 1851 image?
Regards,
Sarah

On SP, or only Ancestry? If the latter, RD and ED name/numbers please.

David