Question on Ship Manifest

Linda Malpass · Post by **Linda Malpass** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 5:05 am

I have my grandparents immigration details, but the question is, on the front page of the Manifest it states the ship departed Glasgow April 5, 1913 and M????ville on April 6, 1913 .... I wonder if anyone knows what this other departure port is .... could it be Marseille, France ???

The ship eventually arrived in Halifax, April 15, 1913

Post by **SarahND** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 6:09 am

Hi Linda,
Any chance you could upload the image so we could take a look?
All the best,
Sarah

Post by **AndrewP** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 7:02 am

Hi Linda,

Marseille sounds too far away. I think the port one day away from Glasgow should be in Ireland or on the west coast of England or Wales.

All the best,

AndrewP

Post by **paddyscar** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 7:36 am

Hi Linda:

Perhaps you might find something in UK outbound passenger lists 1890 - 1960 www.ancestorsonboard.com/ which is listed on our Announcement: The Americas - links to help your research

Frances

elisabeth · Post by **elisabeth** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 8:11 am

I've had quite a few passenger lists where the ship has started at Glasgow and stopped off in Moville in Ireland to collect more passengers-could it be Moville?
Elisabeth

DavidWW · Post by **DavidWW** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 1:09 pm

Moville most certainly fits, - see http://www.benpalmer.co.uk/movillerecords.htm , i.e. hardly any deviation from the transatlantic route after sailing thorugh the North Channel, see http://encarta.msn.com/map_701515173/North_Channel.html .

In other words, rather than steaming all the way up Loch Foyle to Londonderry, just call in at Moville, and pick up folk there.

David

Linda Malpass · Post by **Linda Malpass** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 2:50 pm

It seems to be Moville as it was once a port of call for trans atlantic liners, thank you all very much for the info, by the way David, Ben Palmer has a lovely site on this town.

DavidWW · Post by **DavidWW** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 4:06 pm

Linda Malpass wrote:It seems to be Moville as it was once a port of call for trans atlantic liners, thank you all very much for the info, by the way David, Ben Palmer has a lovely site on this town.

See the link above

Then there's this from http://www.movilleinishowen.com/enterta ... e_walk.htm

The old pier at Moville was built just before 1825 and, before the last war, it was a port -of-call for transatlantic liners. From the early 1860s right through to 1939 transatlantic steamers of the Anchor Line used to moor in the deep water of Lough Foyle off Moville while waiting for passengers (mainly emigrants bound for Canada and USA) from Derry and Donegal. Passengers were carried, free of charge, from Derry's quay to Moville on liner-tender paddle steamers, for example, PS Albatross operated a ferry service between Derry and Moville during the years 1878 to 1906. PS Seamore was acquired by the Anchor Line (which had offices in Foyle Street, Derry) in 1928 and it acted as the company's tug-tender until 1939 when the transatlantic passenger service liners calling in at Moville ceased. Moville today is mainly important as a seaside resort and market town.

As I'd suspected! I was going to do a www cruise above, but ran out of time, so just voiced my suspicions

While there would be some emigrants from Cos. Londonderry and Antrim, I'd suspect that there were many more from Co. Donegal for whom Moville would be more accessible.

Besides, someone from Antrim could probably just as easily, or more easily, get to Larne or Belfast, where I'm sure some boats from Glasgow or Liverpool would call. In addition folk from Belfast and surrounds could easily hop on a ferry across to Liverpool or Glasgow

David

Linda Malpass · Post by **Linda Malpass** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 4:56 pm

Thank you David, very interesting reading. When looking at ship manifests I quite often see this statement next to passenger names "British Bonus Allowed" .... does anyone know exactly what this means

Also my grandfather was a coal miner and on the manifest there is a stamp that says "To assisted Work", and then Miner is written over it, would that mean he was paid to go to Canada to work in the mines

They only had $15 in their possession, I don't know, maybe that was alot of money in those days, and a Special CPR train was waiting in Halifax to transport passengers across Canada

My grandparents were from New Cumnock, Ayrshire and came to Canada to work the coal mines in Merritt, B.C. They only stayed in Merritt for about 1 year and then made their way to Nanaimo, B.C. to work the coal mines. Unfortunately my grandfather was killed in Nanaimo mines 1918, leaving my grandmother with 3 young boys to raise

DavidWW · Post by **DavidWW** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 5:13 pm

Linda Malpass wrote:Thank you David, very interesting reading. When looking at ship manifests I quite often see this statement next to passenger names "British Bonus Allowed" .... does anyone know exactly what this means

See http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/Th ... 0882098986 .

Linda Malpass wrote:Also my grandfather was a coal miner and on the manifest there is a stamp that says "To assisted Work", and then Miner is written over it, would that mean he was paid to go to Canada to work in the mines They only had $15 in their possession, I don't know, maybe that was alot of money in those days, and a Special CPR train was waiting in Halifax to transport passengers across Canada

I'd assume that he contracted to work for a certain employer for a certain period of time.

Linda Malpass wrote:My grandparents were from New Cumnock, Ayrshire and came to Canada to work the coal mines in Merritt, B.C. They only stayed in Merritt for about 1 year and then made their way to Nanaimo, B.C. to work the coal mines. Unfortunately my grandfather was killed in Nanaimo mines 1918, leaving my grandmother with 3 young boys to raise

The surname being?, just in case there's anyone out there who connects !

David