Goes from Canada to US but how did he get there & ......

[Jockbird]

......where did he go?

Hello all,

This is a new bit to me on my Scottish research and I'm hoping one of you (I was going to say experts but I know some of you don't like that one) cleverer people can help me.

I have a David Hardie born circa 1880 in Saltcoats who at some point after 1901 (he was still in Saltcoats then) and by 1907 went to Detroit, according to his mother's poor relief application.

I've got info of the ships manifest which states he arrived in Quebec at some point and on 20th March 1906 he arrived at Port Huron, Michigan, USA, on his way to Detroit, which is supported by the info on his mother's PR app.

What I don't know I how he got to Quebec and where he was after 1907. In a poor relief app dated 1911, his mother seems to think he is still in Detroit. Is there any way of me finding this out?

If anyone can help with this new avenue of research I'd be really grateful.

Many thanks
Donna

[JustJean]

Hi Donna

Any idea what kind of work David did?

The quick look on the 1910 census for a David Hard* b. Scotland from 1875 to 1885 only turns up one. But he's not in Detroit.....and he's just married with a wee son and working as a bookeeper at a factory. The original states he immigrated in 1909 and is still an Alien. (note it's been firstly indexed as Hardig but viewing the handwriting it's clearly written HARDIE)

Name: David Hardig
[David Hardie]
Age in 1910: 27
Estimated birth year: abt 1883
Birthplace: Scotland
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father's Birth Place: Scotland
Mother's Birth Place: Scotland
Spouse's name: Margarette
Home in 1910: Cleveland Ward 14, Cuyahoga, Ohio
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
Year of Immigration: 1909
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
David Hardig 27
Margarette Hardig 26
Alex Hardig 3/12

So what is your feeling on this one? Shall we dig further and find him in 1920 and 1930? Do you know what became of him? Did he ever return to Scotland?

So many questions...........

Best wishes
Jean

Ok...in case you think he could be the right one.....they are still in Cleveland in 1920 and have added a daughter named Jessie and by 1930 David and Margaret have been wed 25 years and own a home in New Jersey. He's an accountant's auditor by now. On yeah..this census shows much more clearly that his year of immigration is 1908.....Margaret's was 1909.

[Tracey]

If you look on www.ancestry.com and search the Detroit Boarder Crossings there is a David Hardie aged 25 in 1905 - i think his final destination then was Chicago.
I will have another look but its easy enough to find only 6 come up with that name.

Tracey

I should read the post properly i see you have the info and the aunt belonged to the passenger below time for a rest i think !

[Jockbird]

Hi Jean,

Thanks for looking that up for me. I'm doubtful at present that he is mine but that is purely based on the information I have.

In 1901 David was still living in Saltcoats and is described as a Slater in the census.

According to the ships manifest of March 1906 a David Hardie arrived in Quebec on 6th June 1905 on the SS Ionian , Allan Liner. He resided in Toronto until March 1906 when he left for Detroit, arriving in Port Huron, Michigan on 20th March 1906.

This ties in with his Mother's Poor Relief Application of 15th August 1907 which states on 27th August 1907 David was in Detroit. It states his occupation as Slater but the ship's manifest states Metal ***yer or ***per, I'm afraid I can't decipher.

It would be a bit of a leap for him to then be a book-keeper, I think.

I've also got Poor Relief Applications for his mother dated 8th July 1911 and 13th October 1911 but they only state 'In America'. There is no mention of family and he's not providing his mother with any assistance.

I've checked on SP....well wasted several credits looking for the death of a David Hard* born 1880 +/- 3 with unrecorded ages but to no avail. It doesn't look like he returned but if he did then he perhaps died after 1956.

I thought I'd cracked it when I found he was in Detroit but I should know better that it only opens another can of worms!

Best wishes
Donna
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[Jockbird]

Oops, look like we over-lapped Jean.

No worries Tracey, the fact that you spotted him too means that I've some independant confirmation and it's not just me making it up as I go along!

D
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[JustJean]

Hmmmmm......I agree....Metalsomething to Bookkeeper is not a likely careeer change. Perhaps the manifest says Metalworker or something like that? I'll have another tour around Detroit in 1910.....got to get inventive now cause it looks like the easy answer ain't gonna float.

Best wishes
Jean

[SarahND]

Hi Donna,
Sorry to butt in, but I jumped ahead to 1930, probably a dangerous thing to do in case he didn't survive that long,:roll: but there is this guy:

1930
Selah, Yakima County, Washington

Hardie, David, Head, 49, first married at age 45, born Scotland, came to U.S. in 1904, Laborer in a Warehouse
–––– Jane Wife, 42, first married at age 38, born Scotland, came to U.S. in 1924
–––– Jean Y, daughter, 2 10/12, born Washington

This same guy was alread in Selah by 1920 and said he had come to the U.S. in 1905... at that time he was a farm laborer

I don't see him at first glance in 1910, though. He must be hiding under another name-- but I'm sure Jean will find him

Regards,
Sarah

[SarahND]

Ah! I suddenly thought of the WWI Draft Reg Cards. This should tell you whether or not he is your man.

David Hardie, Selah Washington, born 17 Aug 1880
Nearest relative is his sister, Elizabeth Taylor Hardie, living in Glasgow.
Could this be him?

Regards,
Sarah

[Jockbird]

Hi Sarah,

He looks like a distinct possibility.

The name Jean doesn't mean anything naming pattern wise but his age certainly fits.

I don't know anything more about this chap as none of the people who knew his sister (my Great Granny) even knew she had a brother.

Donna
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[JustJean]

Nice one Sarah!!! Guess what...that DOB matches the only David Hardie born in Ayrshire in 1880.

1880 HARDIE DAVID M STEVENSTON /AYR 615/00 0157

Father William mother Catherine......is he the right one?

Best wishes
Jean