Sinclair, Daniel

[pwright]

I had a lot of great help on my Pollock side. Let me try now for the Sinclair's. I am tracking a Daniel Sinclair who married a Jane/Janet Henderson in Old Monkland on 25 May 1834. One daughter I know of, Jane, born 14 Mar 1842 and married Robert Campbell Pollock.

Trying to find parents of Daniel Sinclair. I tried a few places including the Sinclair Clan web site with no luck. I am hoping someone might have some info.

Thanks in advance!!!

[SarahND]

Hi again,
Here are some of my guesses;
Was this Daniel's second marriage?
Here is an interesting family in 1841. John and Mary are most likely too old to be Janet's children. There is also a break of 10 years between Mary and young Janet.

1841
Hornock Row, Old Monkland, Lanarkshire
Daniel Sinclair, 50, born Lanarkshire, Labourer
Janet Sinclair, 30, born Lanarkshire
John Sinclair, 20, born Lanarkshire, Labourer
Mary Sinclair, 15, born Lanarkshire
Janet Sinclair, 5, born Lanarkshire
William Sinclair, 1, born Lanarkshire

Is this Jane in 1851? Did both her parents die? Or is Jane Graham her mother who has remarried? It seems likely.

1851
Hollen Bush, Bothwell, Lanarkshire
William Cole, 35, Head, born Ireland, Colliery Labourer
Jane Cole, 32, Wife, born Ireland, Formerly Handloom Weaver
Eliza Cole, 6, Daughter, born Ireland
Robert Graham, 60, Lodger, born Ireland, General Labourer
Jane Graham, 40, Lodger, born Old Monkland, Lanark, Tambourer
Jane Sinclair, 9, Lodger, born Old Monkland, Lanark

It is too bad that Daniel died (if he did) before 1855 when statutory registration came in. It will be difficult to find a death date for him, but you might get lucky.

Do you have the death record of Jane Henderson to see if she did indeed marry Robert Graham?

All the best,
Sarah

[SarahND]

Hello again,
As for Daniel's birth, the IGI only has a submission corresponding to the age of Daniel in the 1841 census (50-54, since the numbers were rounded DOWN in five year increments)

Daniel Sinclair Christened 9 Nov 1790 in Glasgow
Father: John Sinclair
Mother: Ann McMillan

Since this record is not an extract from the register, but just a submission by someone, it is hard to tell if there is any fact behind it. However, you are in luck, since a check on Scotland's People indicates that there is a Daniel Sinclair born/christened in November 1790 in Glasgow, Lanark. It might be worthwhile to download the image and see if you are lucky enough so that both parents names are given. At least the father's name should be there (or the mother's if he was illegitimate.) Depending on the parish, both parents might be named.

Checking the birth of the John Sinclair age 20 in the 1841 census, this is a likely one from the IGI:

John Sinclair
Birth: 01 MAR 1819
Christening: 18 APR Barony, Lanark
Father: Daniel Sinclair
Mother: Mary McGregor

Doing a parent search for this couple, we find one more child, a daughter Mary born 17 DEC 1824 in Glasgow... which also fits with the 1841 census.

The only marriage I find for this couple was reported on 25 Apr 1812 in Buchan, Stirling and on 8 May 1812 in Fintry, Stirling. It is odd that her first child was not born until 1819, but perhaps they lost some babies at first. Or perhaps this is a different couple with the same names...
Anyway, this is my best guess for Daniel's first marriage and children.

Well, that's all for tonight... Maybe someone else will come up with something while I sleep
Regards,
Sarah

[pwright]

So your thought is the the family in 1841 and 1851 are the same except that Daniel has died and his wife remarried? His marriage in 1834 would have been his second, possibly?

You refer to finding some records but I am not sure where to do that.

Thanks....

[SarahND]

So your thought is the the family in 1841 and 1851 are the same except that Daniel has died and his wife remarried? His marriage in 1834 would have been his second, possibly?

That's my guess, since the two older children in 1841 are too old to be Jane(t)'s. To support that theory I found the birth of John and Mary to Daniel Sinclair and Mary McGregor in the IGI (International Genealogical Index on the FamilySearch.org website). Here is a good link to explain what the IGI is:

viewtopic.php?t=3433

I have no proof that Jane Graham is really Jane Henderson Sinclair, but her age, birthplace and the fact that Jane Sinclair is listed just beneath her in 1851 makes it a plausible assumption. But that would need to be checked out. Do you have Jane Sinclair's marriage certificate? It might give her mother's various married names.

You refer to finding some records but I am not sure where to do that.

The IGI link I gave above will help you with that one. DavidWW also wrote a helpful post about using wildcards to search the Scotland's People website:

viewtopic.php?t=6826

Scotland's People (link at the top of the page) is a website of General Register Office for Scotland. On it you will find Birth, Marriage and Death Records, Census Records and Wills and Testaments. Signing up is free and searching is free but if you want to see the results of your search (except for wills and testaments), it will cost you a small fee per page of results. To then access a particular image of the certificate or census that interests you will be another charge. The fees are reasonable, but it is always worthwhile to narrow things down as much as you can before buying an image, in case it's the wrong one... This sounds confusing, but if you go on the site and read the help resources you'll soon get the hang of it.

Don't be afraid to ask if you have questions-- there are many people on this board who are very happy to help!

All the best,
Sarah

[pwright]

Thanks again. I'll check these out.

To answer the question on the marriage info for Jane Sinclair, no I received info via a Gedcom file but it had no source info in it.

I'll check the records and see what surfaces.