Help with 1851 census please

crayspond · Post by **crayspond** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 3:34 pm

I have traced my Beveridge side of the family back to Dunfermline but have discovered that George Beveridge died in Glasgow 01/01/1866 (he died of a heart attack in a spirit shop in Canning St). They must have came to Glasgow from Fife after the last child was born in 1941. He was born 5/8/1804 to Margaret Drummond and had 7 kids (as far as i can find) one son Thomas born 19/8/1841 is my gt gt grandfather. I cannot seem to find George,Margaret and family on the 1851 census - what am i doing wrong?
Can any one help?

Thanks

Post by **Tracey** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 3:52 pm

Is this them maybe ? no sign of George snr though

Name: Thomas Beveridge
Age: 8
Estimated birth year: abt 1843
Relationship: Son
Mother's name: Margaret
Gender: Male
Where born: Kirkaldy, Fife
Parish Number: 442
Civil parish: Kirkcaldy
County: Fife
Address: Stewards Lane
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 3
Page: 19
Household schedule number: 82
Line: 2
Roll: CSSCT1851_91
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Baillie 46
Ann Beveridge 17
George Beveridge 11
Margaret Beveridge 47
Thomas Beveridge 8

Post by **Tracey** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 3:54 pm

This is the info for Mary listed on it

Name: Mary Baillie
Age: 46
Estimated birth year: abt 1805
Relationship: Lodges Sister (Sister)
Gender: Female
Where born: Temple, Midlothian
Parish Number: 442
Civil parish: Kirkcaldy
County: Fife
Address: Stewards Lane
Occupation: Flax Mill Worker

Jack · Post by **Jack** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 11:42 pm

Hi Tracey,
Pray forgive me for "butting in".... [-o<
Makes me look like a right "know-it-all", and that's what i'm most definitely not!
But this looks like George BEVERIDGE & Margaret DRUMMOND in 1851.
Ancestry though has the name as BERRIDGE, and wife Margaret as aged 40.
It is BEVRIDGE doing a "free" search on SP, and wife Margaret is as 46.
Seem father George has perhaps remarried by 1861?
Son James & family are living just next door.
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1841 census 424 Ed 4 p? (Dunfermline)
New row.
George BEVERIDGE, 35, Linen weaver?, b Fife
Margaret BEVERIDGE, 35, ----------------b Fife
James BEVERIDGE, 10, Linen weaver?, b Fife
Margaret BEVERIDGE, 8, --------------b Fife
Euphemia BEVERIDGE, 6, -----------b Fife
George BEVERIDGE, 4, -----------b Fife
John BEVERIDGE, 2, ------------b Fife
David BEVERIDGE, 1, ---------b Fife
====
1851 census 622 Ed 28 p 10 (Calton)
4 Trafalgar St.
George BEVRIDGE, head, 47, labr. in dye work, b Dunfermline, FIF
Margaret BEVRIDGE, wife, 46, -----------------------b Dunfermline, FIF
Margaret BEVRIDGE, daur, 19, spinner in silk mill, b Dunfermline, FIF
John BEVRIDGE, son, 15, labr. in dye work, b Dunfermline, FIF
David BEVRIDGE, son, 13, labr. in dye work, b Dunfermline, FIF
Thomas BEVRIDGE, son, 10, scholar, b Dunfermline, FIF
Elizth. BEVRIDGE, daur, 8, scholar, b Dunfermline, FIF
====
1861 census 644-3 Ed 109 p 13 (Calton)
4 Trafalgar St.............[schedule 65]
George BEVERIDGE, head, 57, labourer in printfield, b Dunfermline, FIF
Jane BEVERIDGE, wife, 44, ------------------------------b Maybole, AYR
~&~
1861 census 644-3 Ed 109 p 13 (Calton)
6 Trafalgar St................[schedule 62]
James BEVERIDGE, head, 32, labourer in gas work, b Dunfermline, FIF
Catherine BEVERIDGE, wife, 34, ------------------b Rutherglen, LKS
George BEVERIDGE, son, 10, scholar, b Rutherglen, LKS
Helen BEVERIDGE, daur, 7, scholar, b Glasgow, LKS
Margaret BEVERIDGE, daur, 5, -----------b Glasgow, LKS
James BEVERIDGE, son, 2, ----------------------b Glasgow, LKS
Thomas BEVERIDGE, brother, 19, labr. at printwork, b Dunfermline, FIF
Elizabeth BEVERIDGE, sister, 17, power loom cotton weaver, b Dunfermline, FIF
John WATSON, boarder, 21, labourer at printworks, b Glasgow, LKS
====
Cheers - Jack

crayspond · Post by **crayspond** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 9:26 am

Haven't had time to digest it all yet! but wanted to say thanks to Tracey and Jack.
Tracey - In all my searching in Fife i am fairly positive that my Beveridges all originate in Dunfermline (it has had me on many a goose chase - what with using all the same forenames) but thank you very much.

Jack - You are spot on - i wasn't getting anywhere for ages because i kept assuming that George and Margaret remained in Dunfermline while some of the offspring moved to Glasgow (my Thomas born 1841) i found them in Dunfermline but then it went cold - i thought that at early 40s they would not have moved to Glasgow - but i was wrong. George did marry again in 1864 in Glasgow to Martha Mercer (more relations i don't know about!). I must see who the Jane Beveridge is? maybe a marriage in between.
An ongoing quest for me is the whereabouts of my gt grandfather who was David Beveridge b.24.10.1862 in Bridgeton. No one really knows much about him and i really have given up on him - any ideas appreciated.
Anyway thanks for the great help - i am so glad i found this site.

Ailsa

Post by **SarahND** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 2:31 pm

crayspond wrote: An ongoing quest for me is the whereabouts of my gt grandfather who was David Beveridge b.24.10.1862 in Bridgeton. No one really knows much about him and i really have given up on him - any ideas appreciated.

I still think he is the one we discussed in: http://talkingscot.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9697

i.e. the Ironmoulder who came to Boston in 1887, age 24, who then married Rachel and had Lizzie, Thomas and Jennie

There was a David Beveridge who died in Boston in 1885-- any relation? Would that have been a reason that young David went over? Perhaps he inherited something?

1900
Palmer, Hampden County, Massachusetts
Beveridge, David, Head born Oct 1864. age 35, married 12 years, born in Scotland, came to U.S. in 1888, naturalized, Cotton Mill Beamer
___ Racheal, Wife, born Jan 1865, age 35, married 12 years, has had 5 children, 3 still living, born Scotland, came to U.S. in 1888
___Lizzie, daughter, born Aug 1889, age 10, born in Massachusetts
___Thomas, son, born June 1892, age 7, born in Massachusetts
___Jennie, daughter, born June 1895, age 4, born in Massachusetts

1910
Palmer, Hampden County, Massachusetts
Beverage, David, Head, 45, married for the first time at age 24 , born in Scotland, came to U.S. in 1887, Beamer in Cotton Mill
Beverage, Rachel, Wife, 45, married for the first time at age 24, born in Scotland, came to U.S. in 1887
Beverage, Elizabeth M, daughter, 20, born in Mass, Weaver in Cotton Mill
Beverage, Thomas, Son, 17, born in Mass, Office, Odd Jobs
Beverage, Jennie M, daughter, 14, born in Mass
Beverage, Allen G., son, 9, born in Mass

By 1920 they have moved to Hartford, Connecticut (not that far away)

158 York Street, Hartford Township. Hartford County, Connecticut
Beveridge, David, Head, 55, Came to U.S. in 1887, Naturalized in 1900, born in Scotland, Filer in a typewriter shop
Beveridge, Rachel, Wife, 54, Came to U.S. in 1887, Naturalized in 1900, born in Scotland
Beveridge, Jennie, Daughter, 23, born in Massachusetts, assembling electrical switches
Beveridge, Allan G, Son, 18, born in Massachusetts, ?? work in typewriter shop

By 1930 David is a widower, living with Jennie and her husband, still in Hartford (by the way, son Thomas is married and living in Hartford also)

Bjork, Ralph S, Head, 35, born in Massachusetts, parents born in Sweden, Letter Carrier for the Government
Bjork, Jennie B, Wife, 34, born in Massachusetts, parents born in Scotland
Bjork, Gorman(?) R, Son, 4 5/12, born in Connecticut
Bjork, Evelyn R, Daughter, 1 10/12, born in Connecticut
Beveridge, David, Father-in-law, 65, Wd, born in Scotland, came to U.S. in 1887, machine operator in typewriter shop

All the best,
Sarah

Post by **Tracey** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 10:23 pm

Please do but in Jack, you a far better than most at this sort of thing. I blame Ancestry for my (this) poor performance. I took the free three days, got busy looking then got distracted by other things then totally forgot what i was doing

All's well in the end thanks to you.....................

Jack · Post by **Jack** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 10:42 pm

Hi Tracey,
Very kind of you, but i'm no better than very many; i do have a soft spot for the censuses though.

--
It was your own mention of no father George that got me looking for him in 1861; was he separated i wondered?
Usefully it appeared that he was living next door to three of his children - and two of those should be with him in 1851.
But his wife was Jane instead of Margaret - that made me look for him in 1841.
This to see what children were there, and then on to 1851 as i'd a better idea of who should all be in the family in that year.
As you can see, i took the scenic route to 1851....
--
Ta - Jack

crayspond · Post by **crayspond** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 8:16 am

Hi SarahND,
I read your posting again, re David and Racheal -i have no idea why he would have left Scotland. Is there any way you can find out Rachel's maiden surname? It may be they married before leaving for U.S.

Thanks
Ailsa

Post by **SarahND** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 2:27 pm

Hi Ailsa,

crayspond wrote:Is there any way you can find out Rachel's maiden surname? It may be they married before leaving for U.S.

Have you checked SP? There is one marriage of a David Bever*ge to a Rach*l in Camlachie, Lanark in 1886. Could this be him? It is a few years early to fit with their statements in 1900 and 1910, but you never know... I don't see that couple in the 1891 in Scotland, so maybe there's hope.

Otherwise, if you could get hold of her death certificate in Connecticut, it might have her maiden name.

Regards,
Sarah

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