(infoirn) Mo Sktied Occ ???

speleobat2 · Post by **speleobat2** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 8:13 pm

This was listed under occupation on a 1861 census entry for Francis Brown, father-in-law to a Chalmers I was checking. Anyone have an idea what it means?

Also, my 4x great grandfather James Chalmers' occupation was listed as "flesher". Previously, he was listed as a farm overseer. What was a "flesher"?

Carol

Post by **AndrewP** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 8:38 pm

Hi Carol,

Was the (infoirn) Mo Sktied Occ on a transcription on Ancestry? If so, have you had a look at the original on ScotlandsPeople? Some of their transcriptions are way out.

Or was it on ScotlandsPeople you saw (infoirn) Mo Sktied Occ? If so, could you upload it to the TalkingScot Gallery and we can see if it can be deciphered as anything more likely.

And for the flesher question, see http://talkingscot.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9625

All the best,

AndrewP

Post by **AnneM** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 9:03 pm

If I had to guess I'd say infirm, no settled occupation. But you should really look up the original.

Anne

DavidWW · Post by **DavidWW** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 9:26 pm

speleobat2 wrote:This was listed under occupation on a 1861 census entry for Francis Brown, father-in-law to a Chalmers I was checking. Anyone have an idea what it means?

See Andrew's answer.........

speleobat2 wrote:Also, my 4x great grandfather James Chalmers' occupation was listed as "flesher". Previously, he was listed as a farm overseer. What was a "flesher"?

Carol

A flesher could have been a butcher, or could also have worked in a slaughterhouse, or a tannery.

David

speleobat2 · Post by **speleobat2** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 12:17 am

That was interesting. I just tried to post a reply and clicking on Submit sent my message into outer space!

Thanks to everybody!

The original was on Ancestry. I haven't checked SP yet because I haven't tied this person to my family yet so I'm saving my credits. I think Anne was close to the translation though.

Flesher?: Butcher had occured to me but not tannery or slaughterhouse. All of them make sense though because my family definitely has it's roots in farm country but never owned land. This entry was on a death certificate at a later date. I suspect that my 4x grandfather left the farm and found a job that he was familiar with to support a family that kept growing. I've only found two sisters so far, but there is a 14 year gap between them and my 4x grandmother had to be pushing 40 real hard when she had my 3x grandmother in 1798!

Here goes! I'm going to try to submit again and see where this one ends up!

Carol

LesleyB · Post by **LesleyB** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 9:55 am

Hi Carol

I've only found two sisters so far, but there is a 14 year gap between them and my 4x grandmother had to be pushing 40 real hard when she had my 3x grandmother in 1798!

I think that is not so unusual back then - women tended to keep on having babies until they were no longer able to. I have one or two in my tree having their last child around 45/47. Sometimes, if there is a big gap it may imply that a few babies were perhaps lost in that period.

Best wishes
Lesley

speleobat2 · Post by **speleobat2** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 11:44 am

Hi Lesley,

Yes, the mortality rate was terrible back then. I found one distant cousin who was the only survivor of nine children. All of her siblings died before their 12th birthdays.

This makes tracing relatives more difficult too. My 3x great grandmother Sophia who was the Chalmers born in 1798 was the only relative in her immediate family that I could find for a long time. Then, by chance, I found her older sister listed on the 1861 census with her name misspelled. Isabella was born in 1784, much earlier than I expected so I pushed back the search for their parents by twenty years and found the parents marriage extract in 1779! Now I know that they were in Newhills on that date so I have a new location to search as well.

Carol

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